View Full Version : 100mm Matter Wheels, some tips
GhostRider
09-13-2006, 08:00 PM
Note, this can cover all sizes of the Matter wheels but I have personaly tried out 100mm wheels,
Hi everyone, first off Im very happy to see that IW is carrying the Matter line of wheels.. IMHO, they are best there is. I have personaly tried at least 10 different 100mm wheels to date now on my RB 10 4x100 rig and once I tried on the Matter wheels there was no looking back. The wheels I have tried included Mach IIs, Stripes, Stargrips, Supersonic (yellows), RevTeks, MegaParsecs, etc.. nothing came close to the Matters in terms of overall wear, grip, and speed.
My personal recommendations..
The Green Matters 83a -- rough roads to smooth roads, very good for beginner to intermediate skaters or advanced skaters who like good grip, control, and good speeds.
The Red Matters 85a -- for intermediate to advanced skaters with good precision and control looking for better speeds on smooth roads, sidewalks, etc..
The Yellow Matters 86a -- for track skating or VERY smooth surfaces. Warning, stay away from areas with debris as harder wheels can tend to be tripped up more easily when hitting debris. These wheels are not intended for typical road skating across a variety of surfaces.
Other good attributes about the Matter wheels.. easy to take in and out bearings (Mach IIs are VERY stiff and tight in terms of bearing fit). Very sturdy hubs which greatly reduces, or even possibly eliminates, any flexing of the wheels when put under heavy pressure in a power stride. Good wear characteristics. When I used Mach IIs I had to rotate the wheels about every 20 miles as they would wear a very noticeable edge quickly.. Matters I can hold out for 30-40 miles before wheel rotation as a comparison.
These are of course my personal observations and opinions of the Matter wheels. I highly recommend them for any type of serious speed, distance, or endurance skating if your looking for a good performance wheel.
Thanks.
chaosdsm
09-18-2006, 09:29 PM
You preffer the Matter's over Mach II's??? Although I haven't tried Matter wheels yet, I hadn't previously found anything to be better than the Mach II's. I use the older green color Mach II 100mm 82A for races on rough roads & the newer white Mach II 100mm 82A for semi-rough roads. I also have a set of the white Mach II 100mm 84A for smoother roads.
I've been meaning to try the Green Matter F3's for comparison to the Mach II's & a set of the Matter Pista wheels for wet/slick conditions. Now that I see they have 110mm wheels, I may just have to get a set of them (for my Bont Vaypor 4x110mm skates) & a set of the 100mm's (for my Lightning 10's) a try!!!
Now I just have to find some funds for the purchase...
GhostRider
09-19-2006, 01:02 AM
IMHO, the Matters smoke the Mach IIs. A note, according to one of my sources, one of the designers of the Matter wheels.. used to make Mach IIs. He went over to Powerslide. Mach IIs are good general purpose low cost speed wheels.. but the Matter 83a and 85a versions blow them out by around 10-15% in speed performance depending on the surface and handle wear and tear far better then the Mach IIs. They are just overall a better wheel design. I ran on Mach IIs 84a for over a year before switching due to supply problems from Hyper when I got my first set of Matters.. there is no way in hell I will switch back now even if the Matters are $3 more per wheel, they are very much worth the price. That should tell you something..;)
Thanks.
idontowninlines
10-09-2007, 06:16 PM
hey i just ordered my brand new 100mm matter (Juice) EMT (Energy Management Technology) wheels. To go with that I also ordered the brand new Bone Swiss Labyrinth Ceramic bearings. None of these have reached me yet but I had a few questions and statements. Matter had released an all new hub for the Juice wheel. I found this excellent because it was said to INCREASE LIFE of the wheel; the speed; and the grip all because of their brand new hub technology system. I always knew that matter wheels (especially matter juice) were the fastest wheels out there, but I often heard they get worn down very quick. But thanks to matters new adjustments that has supposedly changed. You do have to pay extra for the new release, and I'm pretty sure of it enough to trust it. These WHEELS HAVE looks,(really cool appearance) impressive control, (very sturdy) speed (fastest wheel out there of today), and now have less ware and tear to the wheels. These would be my first (new) inline wheels, and I'm very desperate to try them out. I had got the natural 85a wheel, so it should have impressive life while still pertaining speed and comfort. My friend had just purchased Richard Humphrey wheels, and they came in 84a. He had gone from 82a to 84a and it made a significant difference. I prefer harder wheels, so I'm looking forward from going to 82a to 85a. I considered buying the Mach 2's but they just didn't seem as good as they could be, for the shipping rates of today. I shall have the wheels soon.
ALSO, WHAT ARE IMHO MATTER WHEELS, I HAVEN'T HEARD OF THEM, OR FOUND THEM.
Also, like i said, i have just purchased the all new bone swiss labyrinth ceramic bearings. These are the fastest ball bearings for skates in the world currently, and I paid $12.50 a bearing for these suckers. I know red's are good, but i was seeking more. Do you believe this was a waste of money or not, because just maybe another new ball bearing system will release, but that is the future and what is now matters. Opinions on the bearings?
Recommendations: I would not get the 87 a yellow wheel, they trudge very slow, and don't have a comfortable feel to them. The appearance isn't that great either. The only upside to these wheels is that they have long lasting life. I would also not get the green 83a wheels.(though I considered) The wheels are very fast and look cool, but they will wear down quicker. Settle for the naturals because there just as fast with better life and still maintain good looks, and control. If you are going to buy new wheels try to get 84a or above, you'll probably like it better, and it enables a better performance. This is my opinions on the matter wheels. would you please try to answer my question of WHAT ARE IMHO WHEELS, AND WHERE CAN I FIND THEM? thanks.
idontowninlines
10-11-2007, 06:25 PM
whoops, i feel like a dumb ass, but I'm not good with really dumb acronyms like IMHO. Didn't, know it meant in my humble opinion...
maryjasmine
10-23-2007, 09:07 PM
IMHO, the Matters smoke the Mach IIs. A note, according to one of my sources, one of the designers of the Matter wheels.. used to make Mach IIs.
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idontowninlines
10-26-2007, 02:28 PM
my matter wheels busted right off the urethane. i only made a small little jump. If i want fast heavy duty light wheels, should i get the metal rimmed star grips?
IW Staff
11-02-2007, 11:26 AM
That may help. I'm surprised to hear of the wheels though. I'm thinking you just had some bad luck. Wheels aren't designed for jumping like an aggressive skate or something, but if going off curbs and your standard obstacles like that, I can't imagine them doing that.
Perhaps they were exposed to some elements and had deteriorated bit.
tracincrackers
04-28-2008, 11:09 PM
So are the bones bearings worth the cost? Everything I read said they were the best but I'm still not sure if they're worth the price and how long can you make them last?
chaosdsm
05-01-2008, 08:09 PM
Bones are not necessarily the "best", but they're definitely one of the top 10. If you want the best regardless of price, go with Twin-Cam ILQ-9 Ceramics which come with lifetime bearing replacement.
How long they will last will depend upon many factors including type of terrain you skate & various elements you might encounter... i.e. water, dust, fine dirt, etc..., and which ones you get... i.e. Reds, Swiss, Super 6 Swiss, Ceramics... but under ideal conditions, they can last thousands of miles without cleaning, but then again, so can most any decent bearing... under ideal conditions ;)
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